What Started Me Thinking

  • "Whoever is happy will make others happy, too." Mark Twain.
  • “There is no duty we so much underrate as the duty of being happy.” Robert Louis Stevenson
  • "Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her." Luke 10:41-42
  • “Imaginary evil is romantic and varied; real evil is gloomy, monotonous, barren, boring. Imaginary good is boring; real good is always new, marvelous, intoxicating.” Simone Weil
  • “What a wonderful life I’ve had! I only wish I’d realized it sooner.” Colette
  • “It is easy to be heavy: hard to be light.” G. K. Chesterton
  • “A man’s first care should be to avoid the reproaches of his own heart.” Joseph Addison
  • “Best is good. Better is best.” Lisa Grunwald
  • “Order is Heaven’s first law.” Alexander Pope

Happiness Theories I Reject

  • Flaubert: "To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness; though if stupidity is lacking, the others are useless."
  • Vauvenargues: “There are men who are happy without knowing it.”
  • Eric Hoffer: “The search for happiness is one of the chief sources of unhappiness.”
  • Sartre: "Hell is other people."
  • Willa Cather: “One cannot divine nor forecast the conditions that will make happiness; one only stumbles upon them…”
  • Alexander Smith: “We are never happy; we can only remember that we were so once.”
  • John Stuart Mill: “Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so.”

Are you boring? Seven tips for knowing if you're boring someone.

YawningEvery Wednesday is Tip Day.
This Wednesday: Seven tips for knowing if you’re boring someone.

In one of my favorite movies, a quirky documentary called Sherman’s March, the documentary maker’s former high school teacher tells him, “As people get older, they get more like themselves. And you’re getting more boring.” I’ve never forgotten that.

Like most people, probably, I have several pet subjects that I love to talk about – subjects that are sometimes interesting to other people, and sometimes not. Don’t get me started on happiness, or obesity, or children’s literature, or Winston Churchill, unless you really want to talk about it. (I do manage to be very disciplined about not talking about my children too much.)

I’ve developed a list of signs to look for, as indicators that I might be boring someone. Just because a person isn’t actually walking away or changing the subject doesn’t mean that that person is genuinely engaged in a conversation. One challenge is that the more socially adept a person is, the better he or she is at hiding boredom. It’s a rare person, however, who can truly look fascinated while stifling a yawn.

Here are the factors I watch, when trying to figure out if I’m connecting with someone. These are utterly unscientific – I’m sure someone has made a proper study of this, but these are just my observations (mostly from noting how I behave when I’m bored and trying to hide it):

1. Repeated, perfunctory responses. A person who says, “Oh really? Oh really? That’s interesting. Oh really?” is probably not too engaged.

2. Simple questions. People who are bored ask simple questions. “When did you move?” “Where did you go?” People who are interested ask more complicated questions that show curiosity, not mere politeness.

3. Interruption. Although it sounds rude, interruption is actually a good sign, I think. It means a person is bursting to say something, and that shows interest. Similiarly…

4. Request for clarification. A person who is sincerely interested in what you’re saying will need you to elaborate or to explain. “What does that term mean?” “When exactly did that happen?” “Back up and tell me what happened first” are the kinds of questions that show that someone is trying closely to follow what you’re saying.

5. Imbalance of talking time. I suspect that many people fondly suppose that they usually do eighty percent of the talking in a conversation because people find them fascinating. Sometimes, it’s true, a discussion involves a huge download of information desired by the listener; that’s a very satisfying kind of conversation. In general, though, people who are interested in a subject have things to say themselves; they want to add their own opinions, information, and experiences. If they aren’t doing that, they probably just want the conversation to end faster.

6. Body position. People with a good connection generally turn fully to face each other. A person who is partially turned away isn’t fully embracing the conversation.

Along the same lines, if you’re a speaker trying to figure out if an audience is interested in what you’re saying:

7. Audience posture. Back in 1885, Sir Francis Galton wrote a paper in 1885 called “The Measurement of Fidget.” He determined that people slouch and lean when bored, so a speaker can measure the boredom of an audience by seeing how far from vertically upright they are. Also, attentive people fidget less; bored people fidget more. An audience that’s upright and still is interested, while an audience that’s horizontal and squirmy is bored.

I often remind myself of La Rochefoucauld’s observation, “We are always bored by those whom we bore.” If I’m bored, there’s a good chance the other person may be bored, too. Time to find a different subject.

Have you figured out any ways to tell if you’re boring someone?

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Comments

These are fantastic tips. I'll have to remember that last one when speaking in front of a group of people! (Alternatively, I'll have to watch my body language when in meetings!)

Great tips, Gretchen.

I agree with the interrupting tip. I tend to do this and often apologize for my rude behavior, but I DO get so interested in the conversation.

Thanks!

Love this topic! Simply fascinating -- how to read people! Additional signs that someone is bored with something I'm saying:

1. Lack of eye contact (person begins looking around the room or at his/her watch)

2. Fidgeting in chair

3. Leaning back with crossed arms and set expression and rarely moving (also indicates annoyance at being bored or disagreement with what I'm saying)

4. Changing the subject or repeated attempts to change the subject

5. Yawning, excessive sipping, nibbling, doodling, or fiddling with pen, keys, etc.

I also wrote a post about "How to Read People" at http://shanelyang.com/2008/06/06/how-to-read-people/

Great tips.

Of course in digital space (our blogs, websites etc.) these things change. We have no option of being boring. If our blog is boring people will leave (and not come back). If our YouTube video is boring people will stop watching it, incomplete. It is being boring in digital space that we need to watch out for. As Seth Godin says we need to be "remarkable".

Related to your first, I use what I call "The Three OK Rule." If I'm on the phone with someone and they say, "Okay ... okay ... okay ..." what they're really saying is, "Goodbye."

I screwed up and told my wife about this. Now if I say to her, "Okay ... okay ...," she'll stop talking, give me "that look," and say, "Don't you dare 3-OK me to my face."

These are great tips--thanks.

Children's literature and obesity are two of my favorite topics to talk about too--maybe I should learn more about Winston Churchill!!

Body language and eye contact tells it all. I used to have a high school teacher who watched how much we blinked... if no blinky, probably no one was listening!

Thanks for the plug Gretchen!

I notice that sometimes I get going on a topic of interest (entrepreneurship, marketing, and, yes, the deadly "my kid said the cutest thing!")and I notice all the signs of boredom you mention, even on the phone.

Goal for 2009: listen more, yack less.

Hope your book is going great.

All the best,

-Pam

There's also a telltale way peoples' eyes glaze over when they're bored.

Excellent tips. I suspect, however, that the people who need this advice most will be the least likely to heed it. :)

Hye Gretchen, I liked #5, it reminded me of the lecture mode parents get into with kids. They seem oblivious to the fact that they are not being listened to; in fact, they are probably teaching kids how to learn sophistocated non-listening techniques once they are past the age of tantrum throwing.

I believe in giving people my attention when they are talking because everyone wants to be heard, the only problem is that they don't stop talking or become conversational. Guess maybe teaching conversation as a skill in school meight be a good idea also.

Excellent tips! It goes well with one of my posts, Cool Broads know when to shut their pie-hole which touches on the whole if-you're-boring-someone-stop-talking aspect.

http://www.thatcoolbroad.com/2008/05/04/cool-broads-know-when-to-shut-their-pie-hole/

I'm gonna link to it.

Thanks!
tcb

Meta feedback: parallel construction of the point headings would have helped me understand your post more clearly. /pedantic unsolicited criticism

Excellent topic. Will try to read the full post as well as the comments when I'm feeling the energy to sort out what's what.

Hi Gretchen. I am not good at small talk and I hear myself saying "oh really" a lot.
Another thing I've noticed is that I feel it is rude to stare at a person so I glance away periodically. Then I feel like they must think I'm bored or not listening.

I've found the opposite with interruptions. In my experience it's happened because the other person isn't really listening, but thinking about something they want to say and can't wait to get it in.

Yep, lack of eye contact has to be the biggest one for me. And when people say, "Ah Well" or "Well anyway"...means they want to change the subject or leave.

Being true to yourself is very important in relationships.
I think being a good listener makes a person very attractive.

It is not that difficult to realise whether someone is bored or not...by a subject or a conversation. The biggest problem is how a conversation can be made intresting to him/her. Is it always the topic that is boring or is a matter of narrator?
Sometimes neither of two! Sometimes the problem is the listener itself! He/She may have in mind his/her problems so his mind is occupied by other thoughts... I thing analyising the sings of bordom is just the beginning of solving a problem which is not always a problem of the person who speaks but also a problem of the person who attends.
Thank you,

wow..you are incredibly scary..like a stepford wife who has a psyc degree...i guess it proves that any one can have a follwing...I really have to question what you are doing...

I love Sherman's March- forgotten about that movie...I've seen it many times. Have you seen the documentary "American Movie"?

Great advice, but I agree with another poster, that, unfortunately, those who need this advise the most will probably not be reading this.

I'm well aware if I'm boring someone because I get all of the signs I feel when bored, mirrored back to me. I usually nip things in the bud if I feel things veering that way.

I pride myself in being fairly engaging, but sometimes we just don't click with people. There's a woman whom I've meet several times - we are in the same line of work, but getting her to engage is like pulling teeth. Maybe she just doesn't like me, maybe we don't click, and maybe, she's a terrible conversationalist (she told me once she wasn't an idea person - I wanted to tell her "don't say that out loud").Sometimes, no matter what you do, conversations may just fall flat...

You did not tell us the 7 tips for knowing if we are boring someone. You told us 5 tips to know if we are interesting and 2 tips to know if we are boring. Learn to read your own literature.

*Yawn*

I do tend to become easily bored. I think I've unknowingly and unwittingly practiced "all of the above", especially when trapped in a conversation with a person who is voicing what could only be referred to as a monologue.

Great list. Thanks.

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